February 12, 2010
Trade Deadline, Quick Post

Woj tweeted the above about 10:00pm PDT. A rather ominous tweet, to say the least. Let’s break this down…

*The Cavs smell blood. They see getting Stoudemire as a big chip in keeping LeBron, followed by a chance at multiple championships.

*Yes, Stoudemire is better than JJ on the offensive end of the floor - he can do everything JJ does but more intelligently, and he can pick and pop, and therefore spread the floor - but Stoudemire also costs 10x as much, and that’s if he opts in next season. If we’re talking about a big-time, multi-year max contract extension … well, that’s an additional story.

*After beating ORL again on Thursday night, the Cavs must be concerned about how the Magic defended J.J. and Andy to be pushing this hard to get a Stretch 4. In a 7 game series, could the Cavs get 36 points of production on 68% shooting out of the PF in 4 of those 7 games with the roster as currently constructed? Remember, this was also without Mo Williams, and with LeBron playing an extended amount of time at point.

*I’m not convinced the Cavs can beat the Lakers without Z. When it comes to the Suns, Ferry knows he can trust Steve Kerr - if the Amar’e deal goes down, I suspect Ferry will be close to 100% sure that Z will be bought out. Now, whether or not Z will want to return to the Cavs … that’s another unknown.

*Jamison is the guy the Spurs would trade for. High character, strong veteran presence, can score and rebound. Will also be 34 years old in June with $28.4M on his contract over two years. Decent production for right now, but any deal that’s being made has to have as much to do with the long-term future of the Cavs as it does the team winning a championship this season. I think we all believe that Cleveland has as good of a chance as any other team in the NBA to win it right now with the roster that’s currently in tact.

*Part of me wonders if the Amar’e talk is all organized posturing between two friends - Kerr and Ferry - who are willing to help each other create chaos in the marketplace in order to get the best deal possible from other teams.

*But I don’t know … I also see this as a potential pissing match between Dan Gilbert and Pat Riley - who was supposedly going all in to get Amar’e as of yesterday. No doubt that the Cavs getting Stat would royally fuck up the Heat’s plans and potentially prevent the ultimate disaster - Heat trade for Amar’e, Heat has his Bird Rights, they re-sign him, and then give Wade a max deal and bring Bron in on a max deal, too.

*I still want Iguodala. Holland still wants Troy Murphy. BJT68 wants Jamison. And LeBron wants … well, who knows what LeBron wants … all we know for sure is that LeBron is LeBron; he’s going to get what he wants.

January 21, 2010
Marc Stein's Latest Trade Column

Which includes this:

The Sixers are only growing more determined to make a deal before the deadline. I’ve heard that in strong terms from three different sources this week already. 

Which tells me we should expect to keep hearing more trade scenarios that include Andre Iguodala’s name. 

Foiled in its longstanding attempts to move Samuel Dalembert and/or Elton Brand, Philly has apparently come to realize that its best shot at a shake-it-up move is convincing one of the risk-taking/big-spending teams out there – such Houston, Dallas and Cleveland – to absorb the four years and $56.3 million remaining on Iguodala’s contract after this season. 

Not that I’d give the Sixers great hope of hooking Cleveland. 

The Cavs are still chasing a big man that can stretch the floor with 3-point range and continue to hope they can get one by peddling Zydrunas Ilgauskas’ expiring contract. 

Washington’s Antawn Jamison and Indiana’s Troy Murphy remain Cleveland’s top targets – with the further hope that Big Z will be released by his new team and thus eligible to be re-signed after a 30-day wait like Antonio McDyess in Detroit last season — as opposed to pursuing the likes of Iguodala or Golden State’s highly available Corey Maggette. 

Iguodala and Maggette have both been known to masquerade at the 4 spot in a small-ball setup but can’t really be classified as power forwards.

It will be very, very interesting to see how this plays out. The four players discussed, by last season’s numbers:

Andre Iguodala

WP48: .193
RAPM: 3.056

Corey Maggette

WP48: -.007
RAPM: -1.588

Note: Last year for Maggette was a statistical anomaly.

Troy Murphy

WP48: .369
RAPM: -.449

Antawn Jamison

WP48: .157
RAPM: -1.279

While I know there’s been a lot of analysis about the Cavs need for a stretch 4, I think the real concern is scoring. Efficient scoring, obviously. The reason for this is simple - Mo Williams is a streaky player. On the nights where he doesn’t have it going, the Cavs’ offense struggles. The team could use another player who can get 30 if they need it.

I’ve written about how crowded the Cavs are up front. Obviously, they also have a lot of options at the 2 … but they also, potentially, have more trade chips there (Jawad and Boobie), and Iguodala is not only very productive, he’s also a fantastic defensive player.

I still feel that Troy Murphy is probably the most likely addition to the Cavs roster before the deadline, but there’s no denying that “AI9” is a top tier 2 guard, who’s still young, and who - with Shaq and LeBron already on the roster - would probably make the Cavs the strongest team in the NBA.

January 13, 2010
Trade Report: Second Edition

As I did when I wrote Trade Report: Edition 1 on David West, I intend to give you a logical portrait of the current trade picture. I don’t have access, obviously, to the infamous “league sources,” nor will I ever try and tell you that I know more about basketball than Cavs executives … this is simply an accurate representation of the lay of the land.

Let’s start by concentrating on what all of the rumors and reporting about the Cavs revolve around - the team’s desire to get a so-called “Stretch 4.” The logic behind this pursuit, as it’s been described to us in the media, is that it’s the one piece the team is missing, in that they have no power forwards who can stretch the floor while Shaq is at the center position or guard tall, athletic 4’s on opposing teams like the Lakers (Lamar Odom) and the Magic (Rashard Lewis).

Some of this makes sense to me and some of it doesn’t. I agree that the Cavs don’t have a natural PF who is also a good jump shooter (Andy is at 29%, JJ is at 32%, and Powe was at 26% last year). I’m not sure I agree that Moon, Powe, and Andy can’t guard Odom or Lewis. When the Cavs played the Lakers on Christmas Day, Odom was a non-factor. Lewis was suspended when the Cavs beat Orlando by 9 points and Ryan Anderson, a comparably skilled player, was injured, so we’ll have to analyze the next game against the Magic to get a sense of whether or not last year’s playoff woes were a result of the Cavs not being able to guard Butterscotch one-on-one, not being able to handle the Hedo/Lewis combo, or simply not being able to stop Lewis.

The other thing is that the Cavs do have two Stretch 4’s on the roster - LeBron James and Zydrunas Ilgauskas. And since we saw Shaq-Z line-ups being effective against Orlando and Los Angeles already this year, there’s reason to believe these two options can certainly temper the issue.

Given all of that, as well as the fact that the Cavs won 66 games last year and are currently 30-10 and first in the Eastern Conference standings, I think it’s fair to ask whether or not they really need a Stretch 4 at all in order to win a championship. We’ve watched this team now for 40 games; they’re winning at a 75% clip and on pace for a 62 win season without taking into consideration strength of schedule. Their efficiency differential, as of Monday, was 8.1 (at the end of last year it was 8.9).

In other words, winning games in the regular season is not the Cavs problems - even with a subpar starting power forward by the name of Glitch, who averages 18.7 minutes per game.

Any trade that will have a disruptive impact on the current rotation then, has to be about potential playoff match-ups. This means Boston, Orlando, L.A., Denver, San Antonio, Dallas, and Atlanta … if we’re going to be generous in discussing possibly dangerous opponents.

A more precise portrait of how the Cavs match-up against all of these teams will be realized as the season progresses, but right now it’s hard to argue that they don’t look pretty good, aside from an opening day loss against the Celtics (before most of their players checked into a nursing home) and two “we’re kind of bored losses” against Dallas and Denver without Dirk and Melo/Lawson respectively.

My point, ultimately, is this: everyone talks about the Cavs making a deal to get a Stretch 4, how this move could put them over the top, but everyone also refuses to consider what that means to the players who are already here, who have helped the team to a winning percentage of .750 and road wins at Atlanta, L.A., and Orlando.

As the “Anyone But J.J.” series attests, we at JMID have seen enough of Glitch to know that he’s not a championship caliber PF at this stage of his career. Replacing him should be a priority then. But here’s the catch - Glitch is only playing 19 minutes a game. If the Cavs were to trade for Antawn Jamison, do you think he’s only going to play 19 minutes a game?

Probably not.

So whose minutes does Jamison take? Andy’s? Powe’s? Does Andy play more at the 5, where Jamison would then take minutes from Shaq and Z? How would that help against the Lakers, the Celtics, and the Magic?

Powe, of course, is a bit of an uncertainty because of his injury history, but isn’t the simplest fix to the J.J. “problem” (again, the Cavs are playing really well overall) to give his minutes to Leon?

If the Stretch 4 is still a necessity, than the Cavs can play LeBron there more and/or potentially find themselves a specialist - a Robert Horry-type - who isn’t going to demand big minutes and won’t completely re-arrange the rotation and steal playing time from other really valuable players.

Antawn Jamison is a big name. I get it. So is David West. That doesn’t mean they’re any better than less famous players the Cavs already have. Or better than Troy Murphy, who may emerge as a more viable option than he is now - in Wednesday’s podcast, Brian Windhorst said that the Pacers are asking for a package that no one in any league, real or fantasy, would ever agree to.

As my snap stat analysis, and more extensive David West breakdown showed, Jamison and West are only slightly above average. Jamison hasn’t shown that he can play defense, which eliminates one of the two reasons the Cavs are supposedly looking for a Stretch 4. And any deal that would give up Z without a reassurance he’ll be bought out and brought back is a mistake - this off-season was all about size; Ferry can’t, and won’t, kill that now.

For all of these reasons, right now I expect one of two things to happen. Either the Cavs make no deal at all, or they make a minor deal that involves parting ways with a player like Daniel Gibson to get a solid to very good role player. This, of course, is where things get interesting because we could also make a pretty good argument that the Cavs are less secure at the 2 and 1 positions than they are at the 4 … but I’ll save that for another post.

December 19, 2009
Windhorst On Trade Options: JMID Stat Analysis

To steal a line from Ric Bucher, here’s my snap analysis - via advanced stats - on the stretch power forwards the Cavs are at least talking about attempting to trade for…

Anthony Randolph, Golden State Warriors (20 years old, 6’10”)

‘08-‘09 WP48: .137

‘08-‘09 RAPM: -1.498

Randolph is only 20 years old and already producing at an above average rate. His +/- number isn’t good, but he plays for Golden State - where no one’s is - and there’s plenty of reasons to think he will get better as he gets older and plays with an actual team, i.e. one that is not coached by Don Nelson.

Troy Murphy, Indiana Pacers (29 years old, 6’11”)

‘08-‘09 WP48: .369

‘08-‘09 RAPM: -.449

You read that right … according to Wins Produced Per 48 Minutes Troy Murphy was an absolute monster last season. The reasons stem largely from how he shot the three ball (over 2 makes a game at 45%) and how well he rebounded (12.5 TRB per 36).

His offensive +/- number was high, but his defensive number was terrible … which is where the negative rating comes from. The problem with Murphy is that last year may have been an aberration.

‘07-‘08 WP48: .163

‘06-‘07 WP48: .070

This year Troy’s shooting 37.2% from 3P and grabbing 9.2 TRB per 36 … so you see there has been a drop-off.

Antawn Jamison, Washington Wizards (33 years old, 6’8”)

‘08-‘09 WP48: .157

RAPM: -1.279

Jamison career numbers are good, but not great (‘07-‘08 WP48: .180 and ‘06-‘07 WP48: .125), and this season he’s been having problems with his shoulder, although he has been durable, playing at least 70 games 4 of the past 5 seasons (the other season he played 68).

Personally, I’d love to see the Cavs get a deal done for Randolph. He’s the best long-term option, has the athleticism and length to become a major defensive weapon, and is the type of skilled big man that fits the new NBA model … which is important, given the fact that the Cavs frontcourt is in transition. With Varejao likely moving to the 5 next season, the team will need a complement. And maybe the Cavs can teach him how to shoot the 3…

Snap analysis, so I reserve the right to change my opinion in the near future.